Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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Dear colleagues,
in some customer datasets i have seen measurements for the WS like:
??THSP0000WSAVX?, ??THSP0000WSAVZ?
or
??THSP1200WSAVX?, ??THSP1200WSAVZ?

In our database and figures we have only the AA channels:
2021-11-12 12_49_55-Information for ISO-Code_ 11SHRILE00WSANZA.png
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Is there a new measurement available and where is it located?
We should update our references accordingly.

Kind regards,
Dirk
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Re: Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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Dear all,

I have received valuable feedback from Kister on this topic.
There are more designs out for the WS Thorax arrangement.
So the location of the AA sensors does differ.
THSP_AV_WS_Configs.png
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Only the direction of the sensors in ensured.

Moreover the more recent dummies are equipped with AV sensors instead of AAX/Z sensors.
I expect that there will be more layouts available from other manufacturers and so the location
is not guaranteed (THSP12, THSP04,...).

Therefore, my proposal is to extend the database and the figures for AVX and AVZ measurement with the
coding as alternatives to the existing AAX/Z:

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?? THSP 00 00 WS AVX ?
?? THSP 00 00 WS AVZ ?
For the signal output the exact location should not be relevant as the Thorax is design is based on two connected rigid plates.

Kind regards,
Dirk
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Re: Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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summary from the discussion on 2022-03-10 online meeting:

- in current dummies there are no AA sensors to be found; all changed to AV (angular rate)
- all three direction (X/Y/Z) are available as instrumentation for AV
- THSP12 is suggested as some applications might want to combine THSP12 AC signals with the AV signals
- there might be multiple AV sensors on the thorax because of "6pack" instrumentation:
-- code a secondary measurement for AV on the thorax with RD in FL1?

No final decision made for the coding.
Will be discussed again on the next meeting: 2022-04-28
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Re: Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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Dear coleagues,

I checked ISO 15830 for the intrumentation requirements:
ISO-TC22-SC36-WG5_15830-3_2.png
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So it seems there is no longer AA requested but AVX,AVZ (AVY optional).

Kind regards,
Dirk
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Re: Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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The figure has been reworked by Chad and the new WS figures have been included in the database 1.6.3p1 (2022-12-08):
2022-12-08 10_20_41-XnView - [ISO-WS_20220901_P1.emf].png
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Re: Additional codes for WS THSP AVX/AVZ?

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Added Codes to database 1.6.3p1:
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